Our friend Steve posted this quote from a Richard Dawkins article on his blog:
Religion changes, for people, the definition of good. Atheists and humanists tend to define good and bad deeds in terms of the welfare and suffering of others. Murder, torture, and cruelty are bad because they cause people to suffer. Most religious people think them bad, too, but some religions (for example the religion of the Taliban) sanction all of them under some circumstances. For non-religious people, the behavior of consenting adults in a private bedroom is the business of nobody else, and is not bad unless it causes suffering - for example by breaking up a happy family. But many religions arrogate to themselves the right to decide that certain kinds of sexual behavior, even if they do no harm to anyone, are wrong.
The actions of the Taliban, their vile bullying of women, their sanctimonious hatred of all that might lead to enjoyment, their violence, their ignorant bigotry, their hatred of education, their cruelty, seem to me to be as close to pure evil as anything I can imagine. Yet, by the lights of their own religion they are supremely righteous %96 really good people.
Dawkins is a prominent atheist who alledges that religion can cause people to do evil things.
Is it a coincidence that the source of the quote is this Washington Post On Faith series from which I just sent an article by Sam Harris to Laura? When I read the Dawkins article, I immediately thought, “What about Stalin? What about Hitler?” They were two infamous atheists who did evil things, some might argue they did them because they were atheists. Here’s what Sam Harris has to say about it:
How many times are we going to have to counter the charge that Stalin, Hitler, and Pol Pot represent the endgame of atheism? I’ve got news for you, this meme is not going away… I can assure you that this bogus argument will be with us for as long as people label themselves “atheists.” And it really convinces religious people. It convinces moderates and liberals. It even convinces the occasional atheist.
I like Sam Harris. He advocates changing the dialogue by dropping the label of “atheist”:
I think that “atheist” is a term that we do not need, in the same way that we don’t need a word for someone who rejects astrology. We simply do not call people “non-astrologers.” All we need are words like “reason” and “evidence” and “common sense” and “bullshit” to put astrologers in their place, and so it could be with religion.
I would like to take this idea one step further and suggest that religious people drop their labels as well. How often do you meet a someone that says, “I’m a Christian, but I don’t believe X, Y and Z.” If you are constantly qualifying the label you’ve given yourself, maybe it’s time to drop the label.
Here is a conversation I had once:
Jimmy: What religion are you?
Emily: I’m no religion.
Jimmy: You can’t be no religion.
Emily: Yes, I can. What religion are you?
Jimmy: I’m Baptist.
Emily: And what do Baptists believe that makes them different from other Christians?
Jimmy: I don’t know.
Emily: Then how can you be Baptist?
Admittedly, Jimmy was not the brightest guy I’ve ever met, still you can see how the label superseded any system of beliefs he had. He might not know what it meant, but he was BAPTIST, by God!
The same thing happens with some atheists. They become so enamored of not believing that they sort of turn into vacuums. They claim atheisim as a belief more fervently than many religious people claim their God. But what is it they believe in? Nothing. Kind of like Jimmy, the Baptist.