Comments on: The Alchemist and The Problem with Goals http://www.consideringtheuniverse.com/blog/the-alchemist-and-the-problem-with-goals/ ...and your place in it. Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:01:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Nasir http://www.consideringtheuniverse.com/blog/the-alchemist-and-the-problem-with-goals/#comment-700 Nasir Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:21:25 +0000 http://www.consideringtheuniverse.com/blog/the-alchemist-and-the-problem-with-goals/#comment-700 I also agree with the post at Martial Development. I am curious about why you think Christians are "against the world, not embracing it." I'm a Christian, and I find your idea very backwards. I believe you mean Christians who have a perverted view of Christianity, not all Christians. I also agree with the post at Martial Development.

I am curious about why you think Christians are “against the world, not embracing it.” I’m a Christian, and I find your idea very backwards. I believe you mean Christians who have a perverted view of Christianity, not all Christians.

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]]> By: laura http://www.consideringtheuniverse.com/blog/the-alchemist-and-the-problem-with-goals/#comment-92 laura Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:21:07 +0000 http://www.consideringtheuniverse.com/blog/the-alchemist-and-the-problem-with-goals/#comment-92 Great comments. Matt: I like the idea of redefining goals as something that isn't possible to achieve, that keeps us from making the achievement of the goal our only aim, like a horse with blinders on Chris: The point about how redefining goals to be present oriented rather than future oriented is exactly what I am saying. It could be interesting to combine Matt's approach, if the goal is unreachable there is a certain redirection of energy to the current moment/task at present. Aaroni: I'll definitely check out the book. It is all about the journey. Great comments.
Matt: I like the idea of redefining goals as something that isn’t possible to achieve, that keeps us from making the achievement of the goal our only aim, like a horse with blinders on

Chris: The point about how redefining goals to be present oriented rather than future oriented is exactly what I am saying. It could be interesting to combine Matt’s approach, if the goal is unreachable there is a certain redirection of energy to the current moment/task at present.

Aaroni: I’ll definitely check out the book. It is all about the journey.

]]> By: Aaron Yarbrough http://www.consideringtheuniverse.com/blog/the-alchemist-and-the-problem-with-goals/#comment-90 Aaron Yarbrough Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:53:04 +0000 http://www.consideringtheuniverse.com/blog/the-alchemist-and-the-problem-with-goals/#comment-90 Yep, it`s all about the journey Gonna throw in a stellar reference here. Michael Chricton`s Eater`s of the Dead. The book follows Ibn Fadlan on his fictional travel with these Vikings to save their homes from some unknown enemy. The book is written as Fadlan`s personal account. I`m not going to tell you how it ends but I will say that there is closure and goals are reached. What I liked about the ending was that last line goes something like this. And then it happened... From here there`s an editor`s note saying the remainder of the Ibn Fadlan account has been lost. So, anyway, it`s all about the journey and looking to the next goal. Yep, it`s all about the journey

Gonna throw in a stellar reference here. Michael Chricton`s Eater`s of the Dead. The book follows Ibn Fadlan on his fictional travel with these Vikings to save their homes from some unknown enemy. The book is written as Fadlan`s personal account.

I`m not going to tell you how it ends but I will say that there is closure and goals are reached. What I liked about the ending was that last line goes something like this.

And then it happened…

From here there`s an editor`s note saying the remainder of the Ibn Fadlan account has been lost.

So, anyway, it`s all about the journey and looking to the next goal.

]]> By: Chris Cade http://www.consideringtheuniverse.com/blog/the-alchemist-and-the-problem-with-goals/#comment-89 Chris Cade Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:49:33 +0000 http://www.consideringtheuniverse.com/blog/the-alchemist-and-the-problem-with-goals/#comment-89 You really hit the nail on the head when you said "The idea that relief comes with the goal, in heaven-at some later time, not now." I've found that by re-defining my idea of "goals" or "success" has really made a world of difference in my life. I used to think that success or accomplishing goals meant achieving some end-point. That is at least the traditional definition of goals and success. However, now, I allow goals and success to be malleable ideas. Maybe a goal is to find my "passion" in life. Or maybe my goal is to enjoy the process by which I am being passionate about life. The latter provides the flexiblity for goals to be present-oriented instead of future-oriented. You really hit the nail on the head when you said “The idea that relief comes with the goal, in heaven-at some later time, not now.”

I’ve found that by re-defining my idea of “goals” or “success” has really made a world of difference in my life.

I used to think that success or accomplishing goals meant achieving some end-point. That is at least the traditional definition of goals and success.

However, now, I allow goals and success to be malleable ideas. Maybe a goal is to find my “passion” in life. Or maybe my goal is to enjoy the process by which I am being passionate about life.

The latter provides the flexiblity for goals to be present-oriented instead of future-oriented.

]]> By: Matt Shultz http://www.consideringtheuniverse.com/blog/the-alchemist-and-the-problem-with-goals/#comment-87 Matt Shultz Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:43:11 +0000 http://www.consideringtheuniverse.com/blog/the-alchemist-and-the-problem-with-goals/#comment-87 Answer's fairly simple: once you've attained one goal, set another. Better yet: set an impossible goal, one that can be approached but not actually achieved. I'm not saying it would lead to happiness, but it does resolve the issue in a turtles-all-the-way-down kind of way. Answer’s fairly simple: once you’ve attained one goal, set another.

Better yet: set an impossible goal, one that can be approached but not actually achieved.

I’m not saying it would lead to happiness, but it does resolve the issue in a turtles-all-the-way-down kind of way.

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